I was asked the question:
“Recently I have been a part of several discussions involving the role of our words as Christians mainly on the topic of cussing.
What is your biblical interpretation about having Christians avoiding cussing? (even in screenplays or acting as well)”
As a Christian filmmaker I’ve always debated and actually prayed about this topic. Filmmaking a storytelling is about honesty, realness and true-to-life as you can get. So what if your character is a rebel or prisoner? Would they say “fiddlesticks” when they stub their toe? If a Christian made Shawshank Redemption would the story have all the redemptive qualities in it if everyone in prison were shaking hands, hugging and watching their language? I’m not sure.
So anyone that has grew up in or around a Christian church has been taught that the four sins to avoid so we can earn our salvation are “don’t cuss, don’t smoke, don’t drink beer and don’t have sex”. People think that if they do this, they’re alright. Which totally eliminates Jesus from the picture. The Bible says “if righteousness [right standing before God] could be obtained by the law [by obeying a set of rules] then Christ died for nothing” (Galatians 2:21). That is the main point I want to make, before I make any other points. You may disagree with the other ones, that’s fine, but if you disagree with that, you disagree with the Gospel.
Please read this whole blog to get my conclusion. Because it will be easy to assume my conclusion before I get there, but just let me finish.
I volunteered at two inner city youth centers a while back. Both had a lot of troubled youth attending every day. In fact, one that I volunteered at was so troubled that sometimes when a kid didn’t show up it was because they were locked up or in the obituaries the next day. The average life span of the guys that attended there, from what I was told by the main leader, was 26 years old. From drug use, gang violence or whatever else. The other one, which had a younger group that the first, didn’t have death, but did have a lot of troubled kids that seemed to be going the way of the first one. Once someone would tell me that a kid that I skateboarded with the day before was arrested for bashing in a elderly man’s head with his skateboard the day after. Some of the kids I got to know, share a laugh with or even talk about life are still in jail today (about 4 years later). So the purpose of the youth centers was to provide an alternative means of entertainment or escape from their normal lives in hopes of surrounding them with good influence and share the gospel with them through relationship. So we’d play pool, ping pong, skateboard, wrestle and even teach some guitar and other instruments. It was great. They’d swear in their normal conversation and when they messed up a skateboard trick, pool shot or guitar chord, they’d slip out a swear word. We were told to encourage them to watch their language. Then the main leader of this youth center moved overseas for missional work, the new leadership came in and started a ‘no swearing’ rule and they enforced it. Now I’m sure a lot of people that are reading this will disagree with me, but please let me finish this whole blog. I’m sure a few people reading this have degrees in Youth Ministry and whatever else. I don’t, but I did grow up in an inner city my whole life. I know that these kids come from homes where swearing is just another word, their parents use it for encouraging, discouraging, joking and whatever else. So these kids would show up to the youth center and cuss like anyone else they know and get kicked out for a day or a week. And just like asking a southerner not to say “ya’ll” these kids would slip up and sometimes just not know how else to talk. You can tell a southerner to say “you guys” instead of “ya’ll” but I guarantee they’ll slip up. The youth center had around 80 kids at any given moment down to 20 kids. Here’s the kicker, the remaining kids that still showed up were the kids from the churches youth group! The SAVED! This to me actually still works me up a little bit. Didn’t Jesus say “It’s the sick that need healing, not the unsick”? But wouldn’t you know it, we cleared out a hospital from all the sick and filled it with people getting standard check-ups.
The problem with swearing isn’t the words, the pronunciation of “SH-it”, if pronouncing those two things were a sin, then you can’t shush people and reference an object. You couldn’t talk about a certain breed of dog weighing 8–16 lb with long silky hair (Shih Tzu). What if pronouncing those syllables was a sin? What about typing them? The Bible talks about taming your tongue, but what about your keyboard and your finger tips? Is there anything wrong with the letters S,H,I and T? If there was, then typing “hits” was wrong then Christian radio stations couldn’t type out what songs they play. Well, Jesus said “love your neighbor” and if you love someone you’d try not to offend them. Jesus offended people all the time (that’s what got Him killed). If a Christian swears in a forrest and there is nobody there to hear it, is it still a sin? I went to Mexico and pronounced something wrong and said one of their swear words, is that a sin? These are arguments I’ve heard or made myself. It’s funny how you can run yourself in a circle. Christians can, will and have debated this for years.
So what does the Bible say? It’s funny how Christians will take a broad verse and narrow it down to just cussing but fail to see why the Bible kept it broad so it’d cover so many other things. Like cussing, the Bible says “Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.” (Ephesians 4:29). We take that and throw out all the other meanings of it and make it about cussing. One time I was driving to a youth retreat with some youth (go figure) and of course, there was no swearing the whole 2 hour car ride. But there was dead baby jokes and gossip. I could almost guarantee that if I cussed they’d freeze in their tracks in shock that I’d say such words. While we’re here, let’s talk about cigarette smoking, the only verses we got going against smoking is about honoring God’s temple (your body), “Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.”1 Corinthians 6:19-20. Which is hilarious to me, true to form, the Church has taken a broad verse and narrowed it down to one thing. Or worse, in this case, narrowed it down to something that it isn’t even talking about. If you read the verse before (18) “Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body”. The verse is about sexual immorality, not smoking! You might be thinking “but Isaac, I think the verse does apply to smoking as well.” And to that I agree, we are to be good stewards of our bodies and whatever else God gave us, that is written all over the Bible. But why do we only apply that to whether or not we’re smoking while we eat fast food everyday, don’t exercise/stay active, chew aspartame and eat trans fats. Our problem isn’t with smoking, it’s with the negative association of smoking. If an old man smokes a pipe on the porch we don’t look down on him, but if that same old man smokes a cigarette we do. While we are here, if someone has a glass of wine with a fancy meal, it’s accepted, but if someone has one beer while watching the game, it’s unacceptable. This all sounds like it doesn’t have anything to do with cussing, but it does.
We want to appear righteous instead of be righteous. Did you get that? I’ll say it again; We want to appear righteous instead of be righteous.
Meaning, we want our actions to look Christian, instead of our hearts being changed by God. Your youth group may have accepted dead baby jokes but haven’t accepted the “S word”. So you tell dead baby jokes, you know people will cringe a bit, but that’s the point right? But God forbid we say ‘damn’, unless it’s referring to God’s judgement on people that cuss and smoke.
So let’s go up to the verses people mention all the time:
Ephesians 5:4 “Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving”.
(The verses that sandwich verse 4 are both about fleeing from sexual immorality). What’s funny to me, is we have created “7 words you can’t say on TV” and kept those rules fine, but if anything is foolish talk, crude joking or filthiness, it’s dead baby and that’s what she said jokes.
I don’t say that to give you another rule to obey, another thing to judge your Christian friends with or one more thing to tense up about if a non-Christian says it.
The purpose of the law (the rules that we think Christianity is) is to show us our need for God. Jesus speaks out all the time about sin being a heart issue, not an action issue. Our actions and failure to obey the law is evidence of our sinful rebellious heart.
I think sometimes, like the new leaders at the youth center, Christians get so “out of the world” that they fail to make an impact for the Kingdom in the world. We hear a swear word and freeze up and the speaker feels judged. I remember at the youth center some youth would be telling me about their life, their struggles, their doubts and in their explanation they’d slip up and swear, they froze and thought I was going to kick them out after. I just told them “continue…”. We try sometimes so hard to change their actions and not their heart.
I remember one time I brought my extremely vulgar friend to a youth group all-nighter. At that time I felt the need to explain or prepare my Christian friends for his language, so they didn’t freeze up or judge him. So when I told my youth paster that he has a filthy mouth, he replied “God can change that”. Basically saying, God can change that, I’m not going to. Which I loved, it was the gospel. What is the point of getting sinners to act like saints if they aren’t saved in the end? Not swearing isn’t going to save you, any of your actions won’t save you, it’s Jesus Christ alone that saves. When we think our actions save us, we no longer need God.
It’s not a sin to hear swearing. I think we need to know this. If it were a sin to hear a swear word, then how are we supposed to reach the lost? Do you think when Jesus hung out with the tax collectors and sinners that He didn’t hear swearing?
I used to cuss all the time, F-bombs and whatever else. I used to love being “one of those Christians that doesn’t conform to the church”. I felt like I had a leg up on all those Christians. That I found out something that they didn’t. That I was better than them because I wasn’t a pansy Christian that wasn’t allowed to cuss. I’d hang out with my non-Christian friends all the time, cussing back and forth. I’d even convince other Christians that cussing isn’t wrong. I’d say “I look at it like yelling. You can yell to bring someone down, insult or hurt. But if you yell as a joke, yell to get someone’s attention or mimic someone else yelling, than it can’t be wrong then, right?”. All my Christian friends agreed, but one friend just asked me “yea, but is it worth it?” (after that started a three year journey of wanting to marry that girl because she challenged me, haha). So through a life-changing dream God showed me that my testimony falls on dead ears with my non-Christian friends because of my language. After I woke up I stopped cussing* and when I stopped, they started listening to me and respecting what I had to say. One is now a Christian and I was his best man in his wedding. The other, continues to tell me that he respects my walk with God and says that I take my faith seriously. Not to brag on myself, but to show how God worked in that and to show how right God was in that situation.
If you do see swearing in my films in the future, know that it wouldn’t make the script unless a lot of thought, prayer and submission were put into it first.**
Cuss words are just words, it’s more about the heart, what’s behind those words? I can say “nice haircut” in a sarcastic tone, or “nice haircut” in a meaningful one. One is an insult and one is an encouragement. So either way, I think we need to watch our words, not just our swear words. When we speak, do it with thought behind each word, instead of empty words, cuss words or not. Mostly it’s not worth it, it’s foolish. We could be destroying our testimony when we swear. But if your conversations about God and theology are limited to God’s view on cussing, check your heart. If You don’t cuss, judge others that do but know a lot of racial jokes, dead baby jokes or anything similar, check your heart. If you do cuss and you feel convicted, check your heart. If your left arm is getting numb, you have shortness of breath and chest pains, check your heart.
Jesus didn’t die on the cross to stop us from swearing. He died on the cross to make us righteous before God, to change our hearts, our whole being. If your walk with God stopped after you stopped swearing, I really hope you check your heart.
God wants our whole tongue, not just the parts of the tongue that can pronounce SHHH and it. But even then, “out of the overflow of the heart, the man speaks”. Your tongue will show you were your heart is. Let Jesus change your heart, everything else will eventually follow.
your friend,
-Isaac
*I avoid cussing but I’m not perfect.
**I’ve also seen some great Christian films with swear words that were appropriate. ei a documentary on a man’s life.
[I'm writing blogs in replies to questions about theology and the Bible. Though I don't have any handle on either, I think it's a good way to start discussion. So email your questions Isaac[at]tubopopcorn.com]
Thanks for sharing Isaac! That reminds me of a favorite quote of mine err a paraphrase (because I can’t remember the quote!). It says, “We change the result (actions etc…) of our relationship with the Lord into a command we expect everyone to follow.”
Fantastic post! I love this. I have always found it interesting that You can’t cuss in a particular youth ministry but yet we are throwing out “that’s what she said” all day long. I don’t know about You but my mind immediately plays out the scenario in my head. Which being a dude I try to avoid. (:
I have a question. And I’m not asking this from a standpoint of “errrr Your wrong errrr”! I’m just trying to fully understand what You mean. (:
When You were saying cussing could be destroying our testimony I don’t fully understand what Your getting at. How would that happen. If it’s tearing People down and the heart behind it is wrong I totally understand!
But what about hanging out and saying a movie quote that’s like “That’s bad ass” (example haha). Could You help me understand what You mean a little better. Thanks! :D
Keep it up man! You have been VERY inspiring to my filmmaking. (:
-James
Your blog is always such a blessing to read. I agree with this one so much. I think the same applies to Christians who change the name of dating to courting just to make it appear more Christian, when, in actuality, it is the same. It all depends on their intentions and what is on their heart. I think whatever you fill your heart and your mind with will have no choice but to pour out and reflect on the outside. I know for a fact God is still under construction in my heart. I know I will still struggle and it will hurt. But, I know if I place my heart in His hands, it’s in good hands. It’s simple but not easy, seeing as my flesh and spirit are in constant battle. It’s good to keep in mind that we will never be complete until we are with Him. The only difference between me and someone who isn’t saved is that I have accepted God’s gift, not that I am devoid of sin but that Jesus covered it. That is so awesome! May God continue to pour out His blessings on you, Isaac.
James,
I avoided answering the question outright. Because I think it comes down to conviction, I don’t want to pass my convictions onto other people, especially readers I don’t know. I know where I stand on that. But that’s something you should work out I think. I think it can destroy your testimony if it’s in your main vocabulary. Basically, when you don’t take your faith seriously, nobody else will either.
I hope that makes sense.
your friend,
-Isaac
email me, let’s talk film
But, does that mean that we should continue to live in sin because we have God’s grace? May it never be!
But, does that mean that we should continue to live in sin because we have God’s grace? May it never be! Hahaha
First off, I love this. I’ve actually been meaning to blog about the same exact thing for several months now, but haven’t gotten around to it. I think you answered the question way better than I would have, though.
Second, I was a little confuse about something… basically the same thing James was confused about. You said that if you don’t take your faith seriously, no one else will either… but I don’t see how saying a “cuss word” would be not taking your faith seriously. I guess what you’re saying is that people who aren’t Christians would assume that you’re not taking it seriously, because they think that Christians aren’t supposed to cuss?
Third, I wanted to add to something you said. When you said “Jesus offended people all the time”, I read it as “It’s okay to offend people by cussing, because Jesus offended people.” I’m not sure if that’s what you were going for, but that’s the way I read it, and that’s a pretty broad statement. I think if saying a “cuss word” is somehow productive and is going to lead someone to God, then sure, it might be okay to offend a few people who think it’s a sin to say a word that society has deemed inappropriate. But if you’re just saying it for no reason and it’s not productive in any way, then I think it would be wrong if you know someone who can hear you is going to be offended. Paul talks about this in Romans 14, specifically verses 20-21: “Do not tear down the work of God for the sake of food. All things indeed are clean, but they are evil for the man who eats and gives offense. It is good not to eat meat or to drink wine, or to do anything by which your brother stumbles.”
Nice post…I guess my two cents are from a book I’m reading at the momment by Richard Foster: “The tongue is a thermoter; it gives us our spiritual temperature. It is also a thermostat; it regulates our spiritual temperature. Control of the tongue can mean everything…” mind you that this comes from a chapter on solitude and spiritual stillness but the first time I read it I had an “whoah” momment.
Sometimes the words that bruise or cut the deepest aren’t cuss words at all. Earlier in the chapter he states “One reason we can hardly bear to remain silent is that it makes us feel so helpless. We are so accustomed to relying upon word to manage and control others. If we are silent, who will take control? God will take control, but we will never let him take control until we trust him. Silence is intimatley related to trust.” and so that’s a different blog theme in itself but it just goes to show that sometimes less is more and while we need to manage our words we should also manage to embrace silence.
I guess this is more than my two cents…maybe 20??
thanks for sharing,
your friend,
Lisa
lol,”If your left arm is getting numb, you have shortness of breath and chest pains, check your heart.”What a funderful random joke!
I agree with you,but I think swearing is okay if it’s light,and not all the time.My friend who’s a youth leader said sometimes when he’s talking to kids about God and stuff,they’ll tense up and not talk about anything.But as soon as he says “shit” they all open up again.I think if “shit” is just how you say “stuff”,go for it.It’s all about who you’re around I think.I wouldn’t ever swear around my family or old people or at work.But if I’m witnessing,I think it shows you’re not one of the “normal” Christians.I think it’s a great way to open people up because Christians are generally seen as super judgemental and condemning!Even a simple thing as swearing or having a beer can show people that you are not all like that.I think if watching your language around non-Christians prevents them from coming to God,we shouldn’t.Because that is the most important thing…I imagine you could still keep it serious if you were telling your testimony if you swore a couple times.I know what you mean by saying it could take the seriousness away,I think that’s just if you’re swearing 3 times a sentence.If you’re telling your testimony to people who swear alot,I don’t think it would have as strong an impact to not swear.I say you should still be careful with what you say,but only swear if you’re around other like-minded Christians or you’re around people who swear alot and want to show them you’re not a judgemental Christian…maybe…
I’m not saying I know everything,I could be wrong in this…I think words are just words,I don’t know if God cares,but I don’t think He does.It’s as you said,it’s the state of your heart that matters.You know,somebody could be calling someone stupid or something and it could be just as bad or worse that a swear.
But thanks for the post,it is wonderful to see another Christian’ thoughts on such matters,who isn’t being judgemental about it.I do not think you are 100% right,but I could be just as wrong.I agree with you mostly though.
P.S. I went to sleep thinking about this post and I remember when I made a conscious decision to love God and follow Jesus before any of my family members did. I would ask my dad to drop me off at church Friday nights and he did. My friends in high school were not Christians and I really never really liked cussing. One uneventful day I was talking to a friend on the phone and I got mad at my little brother so I cussed in Spanish (out of anger and frustration) and realized quickly that I thought I had hung up the phone but it was off the hook and my friend had probably heard me. I freaked out held up the phone to my ear and hung up quickly, for whatever reason I felt awful. It wasn’t that I was taught not to cuss it was just that I felt I had messed up (one of many messes for sure). That same year I looked up to the one Christian “friend” who was just radically devoted to her faith. She ended up I had telling off my best friend, who was agonistic. They both through big muddy grimy words that stuck. Needless to say my experience with cussing has never been a positive one but I’m a work in progress and so is everyone else. You’re right in stating that we should check our hearts…it’s like going to a cardiologist for the soul.
Andy,
That’s what I was essentially saying, words are words and it’s the heart that matters.
But I think when it comes to witnessing, listen to the Holy Spirit. Once you start working out a formula for witnessing, it stops being about God’s ability to change the heart and starts being about us and our “achievements” as if we get commission for ‘saving’ people.
You wanna make a youth not tense up? You don’t have to say any swear words, just tell them what you’re struggling with. I’ve learned that people respect you a lot more if you don’t flip-flop.
I have an atheist friend that hates God and Christians. He knows I’m a Christian and we talk theology all the time. We have a mutual friend, let’s call him Tom, that tried to witness to him while cussing and getting drunk (not just having a beer, but getting drunk). Later on Tom was telling me “Oh man, I really think I got to his heart last night when I talked to him and I just had to be more like him”. A few days later I was talking to my atheist friend and he was like “dude, that Tom guy was totally getting smashed and cussing while he was trying to witness to me, what an idiot, aren’t Christians called to something more than that?”. That same atheist friend has said to me several times, “you’re faith is real, I don’t doubt that” and “I respect your walk”. Again, I’m not bragging, I’m just saying that non-Christians aren’t idiots, they know when you are trying to ‘fit in’, they also know that we’re not supposed to ‘fit in’ with the world.
In my experience and what I’ve seen in the Bible. If they don’t tense up, then it’s not the Gospel.
The Bible says many times that the Gospel is foolishness to those that are perishing, it’s worthless and a joke if it’s not true, and people will hate us for the Gospel.
We need to be fine with that.
your friend,
-Isaac
Oh yes,well,I just think it should be under moderation.A swear or two,and not getting wasted lol.But you make a very good point,it all comes down to what the Holy Spirit tells you and guides you to do.But as for my youth leader friend,I think they’d tense up because of him talking about what he’s been through…Maybe that’s just the people in this area,but they would open up completely when he swore.My theory is they think he’s one of those religious guys who condemn everyone for sinning and act like they’re perfect(and I’m sure you know,many people think that sums up Christianity).Swearing just sorta shows you aren’t one of those,I’m not saying to do it to fit in,do it to show Jesus doesn’t care about these little things like swearing and drinking(a little wine for you belly,as Paul said)
But,I think we’re on the same page here…No point in me going on,lol,anyway,thanks for this post Isaac,it really made me think.
Um, wow. God used this to clear up something that had been bothering me for a looooong time.
“Jesus didn’t die on the cross to stop us from swearing. He died on the cross to make us righteous before God, to change our hearts, our whole being. If your walk with God stopped after you stopped swearing, I really hope you check your heart.” YES!
I think you’ve mentioned the incident at the youth center before. The whole blog reminds me of a line from a Casting Crowns song – “Have we become so blind that we can’t see/God’s gotta change her heart before He changes her shirt?”
This is great.
“What is the point of getting sinners to act like saints if they aren’t saved in the end? Not swearing isn’t going to save you, any of your actions won’t save you, it’s Jesus Christ alone that saves. When we think our actions save us, we no longer need God.”
Very Convicting words that i think every Ministry needs to hear and embrace